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First post here since finding my way here from the “other place”,straight up i would like to thanks Mike O and Francie for the assist. Looking here for fellow TGMers,Dont be shy,give a shout out so we can get together………the could be the shortest post ever lol..Brownie
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First post here since finding my way here from the “other place”,straight up i would like to thanks Mike O and Francie for the assist. Looking here for fellow TGMers,Dont be shy,give a shout out so we can get together………the could be the shortest post ever lol..Brownie
Welcome across. That first step can be a little tough for some. ?
•Inaugural Victorian OOM Putting Champion - Long Island 2011
•Inaugural ... National champ
•Hole In One - 7th Hole Portsea GC - 9/10/2012
Best ever score off the stick - 74 (Gardiners Run 10/12/2020)
Masters Champion 11/4/2022I do believe the majority on here are more into the TTP style of golf talk. But!!!! that same majority are all keen to learn something that may help to improve their golf if explained in terms that mere mortals can understand. I sort of get confused when golf is relayed in algebraic terminology.
Totally understandable Commish really,but if one REALLY wants to improve in any sport,that sport should be dissected into sections for easier comprehension,..Homer did this,if its too hard to understand (the book)..there is tons of help out there. When I began learning through this system,Paul Hart directed me to Lynnblake forums where I learnt different meanings and descriptions and it all became cleared,I asked MANY questions and got so much help…….If I had my time again,would I go down this road again..?..IN A HEARTBEAT…..Steve Elkington said he read the bookmany times and did some work with Ben Doyle and steve said he could not find 1 thing incorrect in the system. cheers mate
Love your passion for TMG BM and all power to ya. Maybe if I was 30 years younger and still had the golfing/physical ability of that time I would be more inclined to undertake the learnings of Homer and others. At this stage of my life I just don’t have the inclination or the physical ability to do hours upon hours of practice. I just get used to having some good rounds and some bad ones. I still read things and watch a video or 3 and try a tweek or two at times whilst playing a round. Sometimes they work, most times they don’t, especially as the round gets to around the 13th hole and my hips, knees, back start going down hill quicker than Alexis Pinturault.
Hence why I say, if it can be told in an understandable manner, then I will read and try it. If not, moving on.
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As a matter of interest,exactly what is it you dont understand,by that,i mean can you give me an example what it is you cannot follow? im not on a recruitment drive ,just wanting to know what bothers people so much about TGM,im hoping its not just handed heresay,but actual proplems reading the yellow peril cheers
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As a matter of interest,exactly what is it you dont understand,by that,i mean can you give me an example what it is you cannot follow? im not on a recruitment drive ,just wanting to know what bothers people so much about TGM,im hoping its not just handed heresay,but actual proplems reading the yellow peril cheers
The last part of your last sentence sums it up pretty well. My responses are definitely not a dig or misguided attempt at rubbishing the teaching of TGM. I guess it all boils down to “I’m too farkin lazy to take the time to try and truly understand all the technical components of the book.” Obviously a brilliant mind, but one that I gave up on trying to match. Plus, as stated before, I simply do not have the mindset to put in the practice that TGM requires. I guess if I truly wanted to be a single figure golfer I may exert the extra effort, but I fear I would be dead before that remarkable achievement could take place. I shall remain a happy hacker attempting to play a consistent form of golf off my current 15 Hcp. My goal is to try and get back to where I was
40+ years ago playing off 12. That will do me.That is not to say that I am not open to golfing tips that may improve various parts of my game. Provided, for me, if they are simple in explanation and come with a visual description as well for ease of comprehension. I feel I learn better from being shown how something works and having the stages explained to me as they take place. That way I can at least attempt to mirror that which is being shown and explained. The one thing I do understand and try to keep in my game is the Flat Left Wrist concept.
As a matter of interest,exactly what is it you dont understand,by that,i mean can you give me an example what it is you cannot follow? im not on a recruitment drive ,just wanting to know what bothers people so much about TGM,im hoping its not just handed heresay,but actual proplems reading the yellow peril cheers
The last part of your last sentence sums it up pretty well. My responses are definitely not a dig or misguided attempt at rubbishing the teaching of TGM. I guess it all boils down to “I’m too farkin lazy to take the time to try and truly understand all the technical components of the book.” Obviously a brilliant mind, but one that I gave up on trying to match. Plus, as stated before, I simply do not have the mindset to put in the practice that TGM requires. I guess if I truly wanted to be a single figure golfer I may exert the extra effort, but I fear I would be dead before that remarkable achievement could take place. I shall remain a happy hacker attempting to play a consistent form of golf off my current 15 Hcp. My goal is to try and get back to where I was
40+ years ago playing off 12. That will do me.That is not to say that I am not open to golfing tips that may improve various parts of my game. Provided, for me, if they are simple in explanation and come with a visual description as well for ease of comprehension. I feel I learn better from being shown how something works and having the stages explained to me as they take place. That way I can at least attempt to mirror that which is being shown and explained. The one thing I do understand and try to keep in my game is the Flat Left Wrist concept.
All good commish,I knew you werent taking a dig,I fully understand where your coming from.I am also on the back nine of golf life being 71 and still on singles.(just),your well on your way when you follow FLW concept,,it doesnt belong to TGM,,,add straight plane line (im sure you know that) and have a lag pressure and you can play solid golf imo,…we all try so hard to get the ball “out there”,we forget about accuracy,…..we could no doubt play a much better round or two by taking 1/2 swings (AQUIRED MOTION),..as for practice,i only use s/wedge 20-40 yds,and can look at my swing without too much effort,……..Anyhow,thats another story,i wont bore you with it,thanks for the yack mate
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As a matter of interest,exactly what is it you dont understand,by that,i mean can you give me an example what it is you cannot follow? im not on a recruitment drive ,just wanting to know what bothers people so much about TGM,im hoping its not just handed heresay,but actual proplems reading the yellow peril cheers
The last part of your last sentence sums it up pretty well. My responses are definitely not a dig or misguided attempt at rubbishing the teaching of TGM. I guess it all boils down to “I’m too farkin lazy to take the time to try and truly understand all the technical components of the book.” Obviously a brilliant mind, but one that I gave up on trying to match. Plus, as stated before, I simply do not have the mindset to put in the practice that TGM requires. I guess if I truly wanted to be a single figure golfer I may exert the extra effort, but I fear I would be dead before that remarkable achievement could take place. I shall remain a happy hacker attempting to play a consistent form of golf off my current 15 Hcp. My goal is to try and get back to where I was
40+ years ago playing off 12. That will do me.That is not to say that I am not open to golfing tips that may improve various parts of my game. Provided, for me, if they are simple in explanation and come with a visual description as well for ease of comprehension. I feel I learn better from being shown how something works and having the stages explained to me as they take place. That way I can at least attempt to mirror that which is being shown and explained. The one thing I do understand and try to keep in my game is the Flat Left Wrist concept.
All good commish,I knew you werent taking a dig,I fully understand where your coming from.I am also on the back nine of golf life being 71 and still on singles.(just),your well on your way when you follow FLW concept,,it doesnt belong to TGM,,,add straight plane line (im sure you know that) and have a lag pressure and you can play solid golf imo,…we all try so hard to get the ball “out there”,we forget about accuracy,…..we could no doubt play a much better round or two by taking 1/2 swings (AQUIRED MOTION),..as for practice,i only use s/wedge 20-40 yds,and can look at my swing without too much effort,……..Anyhow,thats another story,i wont bore you with it,thanks for the yack mate
All good Brownman. You obviously have your swing sorted. Totally agree with your comment of “get the ball out there”. I play generally with gents quite younger than myself and yep I try and get it out there way too often. I have one thought over the ball these days and that is simply, “Keeping it in play, is the only way.” To accommodate that, I usually use a 3/4 swing, but at times find myself trying to force that extra bit with a push out of the right hand. This of course frequently leads to disaster and a total disbandment of FLW which breaks down badly. A mental work in progress. Yep, understand the straight plane line and creation of lag pressure at commencement of downswing and try and hold to impact. Get it occasionally, but not often enough. Love the results when it happens though.
Good to hear your thoughts as well bud. Happy golfing….. be it good or bad, better than no golf at all.
As a matter of interest,exactly what is it you dont understand,by that,i mean can you give me an example what it is you cannot follow? im not on a recruitment drive ,just wanting to know what bothers people so much about TGM,im hoping its not just handed heresay,but actual proplems reading the yellow peril cheers
The last part of your last sentence sums it up pretty well. My responses are definitely not a dig or misguided attempt at rubbishing the teaching of TGM. I guess it all boils down to “I’m too farkin lazy to take the time to try and truly understand all the technical components of the book.” Obviously a brilliant mind, but one that I gave up on trying to match. Plus, as stated before, I simply do not have the mindset to put in the practice that TGM requires. I guess if I truly wanted to be a single figure golfer I may exert the extra effort, but I fear I would be dead before that remarkable achievement could take place. I shall remain a happy hacker attempting to play a consistent form of golf off my current 15 Hcp. My goal is to try and get back to where I was
40+ years ago playing off 12. That will do me.That is not to say that I am not open to golfing tips that may improve various parts of my game. Provided, for me, if they are simple in explanation and come with a visual description as well for ease of comprehension. I feel I learn better from being shown how something works and having the stages explained to me as they take place. That way I can at least attempt to mirror that which is being shown and explained. The one thing I do understand and try to keep in my game is the Flat Left Wrist concept.
I agree 100% Commish. While I have a technical or analytical mind, to me the golf swing is all about feel. The swing happens far too quickly without high speed photography to analyse it. Having said that, I’m sure such analysis could help with regard to lag and release.
I am Brownies’ age but, like you, quite happy to be out there playing golf for the fun of it without the hassle of trying to get another iota of performance, unless I happen across a magic tip. I don’t need to be off single figures.
People say that nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
No championships worth mentioning in recent years.
Progress is man's ability to complicate simplicity.As a matter of interest,exactly what is it you dont understand,by that,i mean can you give me an example what it is you cannot follow? im not on a recruitment drive ,just wanting to know what bothers people so much about TGM,im hoping its not just handed heresay,but actual proplems reading the yellow peril cheers
The last part of your last sentence sums it up pretty well. My responses are definitely not a dig or misguided attempt at rubbishing the teaching of TGM. I guess it all boils down to “I’m too farkin lazy to take the time to try and truly understand all the technical components of the book.” Obviously a brilliant mind, but one that I gave up on trying to match. Plus, as stated before, I simply do not have the mindset to put in the practice that TGM requires. I guess if I truly wanted to be a single figure golfer I may exert the extra effort, but I fear I would be dead before that remarkable achievement could take place. I shall remain a happy hacker attempting to play a consistent form of golf off my current 15 Hcp. My goal is to try and get back to where I was
40+ years ago playing off 12. That will do me.That is not to say that I am not open to golfing tips that may improve various parts of my game. Provided, for me, if they are simple in explanation and come with a visual description as well for ease of comprehension. I feel I learn better from being shown how something works and having the stages explained to me as they take place. That way I can at least attempt to mirror that which is being shown and explained. The one thing I do understand and try to keep in my game is the Flat Left Wrist concept.
All good commish,I knew you werent taking a dig,I fully understand where your coming from.I am also on the back nine of golf life being 71 and still on singles.(just),your well on your way when you follow FLW concept,,it doesnt belong to TGM,,,add straight plane line (im sure you know that) and have a lag pressure and you can play solid golf imo,…we all try so hard to get the ball “out there”,we forget about accuracy,…..we could no doubt play a much better round or two by taking 1/2 swings (AQUIRED MOTION),..as for practice,i only use s/wedge 20-40 yds,and can look at my swing without too much effort,……..Anyhow,thats another story,i wont bore you with it,thanks for the yack mate
All good Brownman. You obviously have your swing sorted. Totally agree with your comment of “get the ball out there”. I play generally with gents quite younger than myself and yep I try and get it out there way too often. I have one thought over the ball these days and that is simply, “Keeping it in play, is the only way.” To accommodate that, I usually use a 3/4 swing, but at times find myself trying to force that extra bit with a push out of the right hand. This of course frequently leads to disaster and a total disbandment of FLW which breaks down badly. A mental work in progress. Yep, understand the straight plane line and creation of lag pressure at commencement of downswing and try and hold to impact. Get it occasionally, but not often enough. Love the results when it happens though.
Good to hear your thoughts as well bud. Happy golfing….. be it good or bad, better than no golf at all.
Been there done that with right hand.
At risk of bringing the average age of this discussion down a notch, it’s an interesting question BM posed and Commish has eloquently captured in his response.
As a 48yo with ongoing lower back issues I have had to readjust my expectations and approach to both improvement and playing. Previous thoughts were filtered with feel isn’t real, what I think I’m doing isn’t even close to what I think, and lessons are best.
Using that same approach and knowledge from 3 years of lessons and practice etc. I have recalibrated my goals and playing approach. In short I have realised I have a functional playable swing and need to fine-tune my short game to score better.
I don’t need to think in terms of positions or concepts, I need to keep my current swing repeatable and work on short game skills.
So, for me, the TGM type discussion or overly detailed analysis of the golf swing had never really worked and I now doubt will ever need to be. But, I 100% support and encourage others who do like that approach.
So, where are they all?
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