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  • #14777
    Avatarxrman
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    I started golf as a senior after I retired. Not knowing any local golfers, I didn’t know how to choose appropriate golf clubs, so I did what many Australians do, I went to my local Drummonds Golf store ( 300 km away) and bought a starter set of Power Bilt clubs.
    I was given a price range to choose from, my wrist to floor measurement was taken and regular shaft flex was suggested. I hit a few 7 irons into a net and liked the Power Bilt the best. The golf set consisted of 10.5 Driver, 3 wood, hybrid, strong lofted 4 iron to SW,/ I choose a Power Bilt putter too. Cost $800- ish

    I used the set for a year and seemed to hit a wall at handicap 24. It had to be the clubs! I struggled with a push fade off the tee with Driver. I wasn’t able to hit the 3 wood off the deck, but continued carrying it. I liked the hybrid. 4 iron and 5 iron didn’t work flight wise. You Tube became my friend in golf instruction as we didn’t have a local coach at that time. It seemed to me that I needed irons I could hit better and a Driver that I could control, so I did the E-Bay. I bought a set of stiff shafted single length Cobra F7 ( 5 -GW) for $400 , a F7 Driver,and a F7 22-24 hybrid. Sold the Power Bilt set for $400.

    Handicap fell to 22, better iron control, but I still struggled with the Driver so I swapped to a second hand F8 stiff shaft. I added another F7 Hybrid 16-19 instead of a 3 wood. That worked!

    At the end of year two I decided I should sell off the irons and Driver and get fitted for a new set of Cobra F9s. The “fitting ” process was basic indeed. So I ended up with an F9 driver set at 12 degrees, a 3-4 wood at 16, F9 irons 5-GW. I continued using thisset for another year, during which I realized that the Driver and three wood were not working for me, nor could I hit the 5 iron ( 22.5) any further than the 6 iron (25/26 degrees?) so it was replaced by the 22 F7 Hybrid . It was about here that I changed my swing learning the Jim Venetos method and developed a reliable, repeatable contact. It worked for me. It was about this time That I wondered if graphite shafted irons would suit me better, so I bought a couple graphite shafted Milford Golf SL-7 irons to try. They had a narrower sole which seemed to help my turf interaction.

    At year 4 my bag now has a 12 degree Cleveland HB Launcher Turbo Driver, Cobra F9 5-6 wood set at 17 degrees( a 4 wood?), Cobra F9 SL 19 Hybrid, F8 SL hybrids 22 and 25 degrees, Milford Golf SL-7 6 iron ( 29) -GW (50) graphite shafted, Cleveland CBX2 56 and 60 wedges. Handicap down to 13 now. I am about to replace my 6 iron with a Tour Edge hot launch iron-hybrid.

    There is a moral to my story in that finding the right clubs to suit your game/ swing (eventually) improves your game. Obviously having a professional fitting is ideal, but many would argue that doing that before grooving a good ball strike/ swing path is like trying to hit a moving target.

    Here is my advice on gear for a beginner golfer.
    Driver: most beginners slice, so an anti- slice Drivers like a Wilson Launch Pad or Cleveland HB Launcher Turbo; cheap and forgiving. Loft 10.5 to 14 degrees. (The worse you slice the higher the loft you need, but you lose distance as a trade off, but keep it in the fairway)
    Fairway woods: loft of 17-19 degrees. Brands: Cobra, Tour Edge, Cleveland, Wilson
    Hybrids: Lofts 19-24 Brands as above
    Irons: Super Game Improvement irons were really a revelation to me recently. How easy are these things to hit! They look hybrid like, some say ugly, but they work to get the ball up high and they spin and they draw the ball ( ideal for beginners)
    Brands: Cleveland HB Launchers, Wilson Launch Pads, Tour Edge Bazooka/ Hot Launch, Cobra T-Rail.
    Whether you go for this type of SGI iron, or a Game Improver cavity backed type, change to hybrids at or under about 26 degrees loft ( disregard this if you have a high swing speed)
    Wedges: Cavity backed wedges are more forgiving than blade style traditional wedges. Bang for buck the CBX2 Cleveland are hard to beat.
    Putters: very individual item, but try a Wilson or Cleveland.

    General Advice:
    1) If in doubt start with a regular flex shaft even if you are a big strapping lad. If you are approaching 70s A flex or Ladies flex will work.
    2) Don’t spend big bucks on your first clubs. You will out grow them. Second hand makes sense ( E bay, Face Book Market Place, Gum Tree). The big name brands come at a premium price, best left later when you have a professional fitting.
    3) Hand me downs from Dad or relatives may not suit you. My mate inherited a set that had 2,3,4,5 irons, none of which he can hit well and was getting frustrated with golf. He had no idea that there were easier clubs to use until I loaned him my wife’s SGI irons.

    I hope this helps those who don’t have advice from an experienced golfer/ PGA professional .

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    #14778
    BumpunRunBumpunRun
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    Wowzers, Drummond saw you coming!
    For me, that’s where it all fell down, for the same $800 and maybe an additional 2 hour round trip you (however much longer to a golf club) could have received your very first advice from a professional rather than a checkout chick looking to make a sale on brand new clubs.

    There will always be the argument about not getting “fitted” until you have a repeatable swing and this absolutely makes sense, but to be convinced to drop $800 on your first set that clearly wasn’t right is crazy.

    The lesson here too is that someone picked up a year old set for half the original price and there will always be near new sticks for sale, so for me it’s about speaking to a pro to get a feel for what you will need at the start and work through from there.

    Love your story XR, thanks for sharing.

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    #14784
    InkInk
    Participant

    Could we ask what is IM’s bag – he’s been a beginner for 10 years.

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    #14788
    CommishCommish
    Participant

    $300 basic or reasonable 2nd hand set until you get some sort of swing happening and determine if you want to keep playing.

    If the answer is keep playing, then a couple of lessons to hone/correct that swing.

    Join a club and see how the handicap goes.

    Once you start to drop handicap and realise you like the game and want to continue, get a few more lessons.

    At some point you start hitting consistent scores and your handicap stabilises.

    THEN get fitted for some decent irons…

    THEN get fitted for a driver and FW with good shafts.

    THEN get a few more lessons.

    THEN watch your handicap drop.

    NB:- Hopefully this all happens when you are young enough to take advantage of it.

    NBB,, the above is what I should have done.

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    #14796
    SchmuckSchmuck
    Participant

    Isn’t the simple answer? BEER

    Incessant Threadjacker

    NSW Amateur 9hole Speedgolf champ 2019 & 2020 BTB 🤭

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    #14799
    CommishCommish
    Participant

    Isn’t the simple answer? BEER

    I like you even more now!!!! Ahh yes, that crucial golfing accessory. It may not be THE answer, but it’s a damn good runner up.

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    #14808
    GPJGPJ
    Participant

    My theory of what should be in a beginners bag is slightly different,

    Here’s three things I’d suggest, which would hold them in good stead going forward.

    1. An understanding of ball flght laws …. it makes it easier to diagnose issues such as swingpath/clubface .

    2. A basic understanding of golf clubs eg what to look for re forgiveness or workability in clubs, and shaft flex

    3. An idea of where they want their golf to progress to.
    eg If they are only ever going to be once a month social golfers their clubs don’t need to be the best around. If they plan on joining a club, getting a handicap, working their butt off to get to single figures, then the clubs they should get would be more advanced to allow them to grow into them.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by GPJGPJ.
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    #14810
    Avatarxrman
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    Wowzers, Drummond saw you coming!
    For me, that’s where it all fell down, for the same $800 and maybe an additional 2 hour round trip you (however much longer to a golf club) could have received your very first advice from a professional rather than a checkout chick looking to make a sale on brand new clubs.

    There will always be the argument about not getting “fitted” until you have a repeatable swing and this absolutely makes sense, but to be convinced to drop $800 on your first set that clearly wasn’t right is crazy.

    The lesson here too is that someone picked up a year old set for half the original price and there will always be near new sticks for sale, so for me it’s about speaking to a pro to get a feel for what you will need at the start and work through from there.

    Love your story XR, thanks for sharing.

    Wisdom in retrospect is a common thing. In Drummond’s defence they did give me the two tier option; Set up to $500 range + Putter, Set up to $1000 range + Putter.

    Update: I could not help myself yesterday when I saw a set of Tour Edge Bazooka Hybrid-irons ( 3,5,7,9,SW plus a putter and 5 wood) advertised for $90. I will pick them up in Adelaide next week. We were visiting friends anyway. It seems I was fastest of 12 possible buyers.

    My plan of taking just my wife’s set of club when travelling and sharing them didn’t please SWMBO, so this half set will suit me. I really only wanted to buy the & iron to try it against my Milford club for consistent carry distance.

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    #14812
    InkInk
    Participant

    snacks

    #14815
    FrancieFrancie
    Keymaster

    My theory of what should be in a beginners bag is slightly different,

    Here’s three things I’d suggest, which would hold them in good stead going forward.

    1. An understanding of ball flght laws …. it makes it easier to diagnose issues such as swingpath/clubface .

    2. A basic understanding of golf clubs eg what to look for re forgiveness or workability in clubs, and shaft flex

    3. An idea of where they want their golf to progress to.
    eg If they are only ever going to be once a month social golfers their clubs don’t need to be the best around. If they plan on joining a club, getting a handicap, working their butt off to get to single figures, then the clubs they should get would be more advanced to allow them to grow into them.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by GPJGPJ.

    Perhaps Xman should have gone to your “office” Gaz….. 😉

    •Inaugural Victorian OOM Putting Champion - Long Island 2011
    •Inaugural ... National champ
    •Hole In One - 7th Hole Portsea GC - 9/10/2012
    Best ever score off the stick - 74 (Gardiners Run 10/12/2020)

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by FrancieFrancie.
    #14817
    SchmuckSchmuck
    Participant

    Another important item… Retriever

    Incessant Threadjacker

    NSW Amateur 9hole Speedgolf champ 2019 & 2020 BTB 🤭

    #14818
    CommishCommish
    Participant

    Another important item… Retriever

    Golden???

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    #14827
    AvatarCan break 80
    Participant

    Wowzers, Drummond saw you coming!
    For me, that’s where it all fell down, for the same $800 and maybe an additional 2 hour round trip you (however much longer to a golf club) could have received your very first advice from a professional rather than a checkout chick looking to make a sale on brand new clubs.

    There will always be the argument about not getting “fitted” until you have a repeatable swing and this absolutely makes sense, but to be convinced to drop $800 on your first set that clearly wasn’t right is crazy.

    The lesson here too is that someone picked up a year old set for half the original price and there will always be near new sticks for sale, so for me it’s about speaking to a pro to get a feel for what you will need at the start and work through from there.

    Love your story XR, thanks for sharing.

    Wisdom in retrospect is a common thing. In Drummond’s defence they did give me the two tier option; Set up to $500 range + Putter, Set up to $1000 range + Putter.

    Update: I could not help myself yesterday when I saw a set of Tour Edge Bazooka Hybrid-irons ( 3,5,7,9,SW plus a putter and 5 wood) advertised for $90. I will pick them up in Adelaide next week. We were visiting friends anyway. It seems I was fastest of 12 possible buyers.

    My plan of taking just my wife’s set of club when travelling and sharing them didn’t please SWMBO, so this half set will suit me. I really only wanted to buy the & iron to try it against my Milford club for consistent carry distance.

    The Bazooka’s are not ideal clubs for a golfer looking to break 80. designed for beginner golfers.
    I have hit these clubs(cousin has some), the wide soles jump the ball in air very easy, that’s true, BUT very easy to belly on hard pan dry fairways, as wide sole just bounces and you will hit a lot over back.

    you will find the Bazooka SW a very difficult club to use, with such a wide sole hard to hit those little precision shots like a pitch
    great set for your wife to learn with
    anyway hit them to find out what they will do for you.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by AvatarCan break 80.
    #14829
    AvatarCan break 80
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    for a beginner golfer 5 clubs
    5w or hybrid
    6 iron
    8 iron
    PW
    putter.

    thats all they need, as progress in game add in a SW to get out of sand (not LW),.
    5 clubs is enough to use to break 100 which is first golfing goal of any beginner.

    • This reply was modified 1 month, 2 weeks ago by AvatarCan break 80.
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    #14839
    SchmuckSchmuck
    Participant

    Another important item… Retriever

    Golden???

    Thank you & also my apologies for sharing this thought train 😁

    Incessant Threadjacker

    NSW Amateur 9hole Speedgolf champ 2019 & 2020 BTB 🤭

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