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  • #14235
    iRON MiCKiRON MiCK
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    Had an interesting one today.
    Two players were just off the front of the green and wanted to go the Texas Wedge.
    Player 1 was almost directly in front of player 2 in line with the flag and player 2 was disappointed their putting line was blocked.I suggested that they let player 1 putt on first as an alternative.
    My marker then said that player 1 could mark their ball and let player 2 have a clear putt as both had elected to “putt” for their next strokes.
    I called BS and considering it was Senior Club Championships said that wasn’t an option.
    Old mate insisted and said it was legitimate he had seen it happen in a Penant match.
    So my question is what is the correct ruling here?

    NAGA

    #14237
    BumpunRunBumpunRun
    Participant

    What would your ruling have been if it wasn’t Senior Champs?

    #14244
    OldBogeyOldBogey
    Participant

    Had an interesting one today.
    Two players were just off the front of the green and wanted to go the Texas Wedge.
    Player 1 was almost directly in front of player 2 in line with the flag and player 2 was disappointed their putting line was blocked.I suggested that they let player 1 putt on first as an alternative.
    My marker then said that player 1 could mark their ball and let player 2 have a clear putt as both had elected to “putt” for their next strokes.
    I called BS and considering it was Senior Club Championships said that wasn’t an option.
    Old mate insisted and said it was legitimate he had seen it happen in a Penant match.
    So my question is what is the correct ruling here?

    Yes Mick, it’s legit.
    The player whose ball is nearer the pin cannot elect to mark his ball, unless it’s preferred lies or it’s actually on the green. The player whose ball is further away may request that the interfering ball be marked and lifted. The first player may then do as requested or play his ball instead.

    People say that nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
    West Gippsland Veterans Champion 2017 & 2018
    Olinda Golf Club B Grade Champion 2018
    Warragul Country Club C Grade Champion 2019
    West Gippsland Veterans B Grade Champion 2019
    Nothing for 2020

    #14245
    iRON MiCKiRON MiCK
    Participant

    What would your ruling have been if it wasn’t Senior Champs?

    I still would have said the same thing. My protests did not change the outcome on the day, and would like to know what your ruling here is Captain?

    NAGA

    #14246
    iRON MiCKiRON MiCK
    Participant

    Had an interesting one today.
    Two players were just off the front of the green and wanted to go the Texas Wedge.
    Player 1 was almost directly in front of player 2 in line with the flag and player 2 was disappointed their putting line was blocked.I suggested that they let player 1 putt on first as an alternative.
    My marker then said that player 1 could mark their ball and let player 2 have a clear putt as both had elected to “putt” for their next strokes.
    I called BS and considering it was Senior Club Championships said that wasn’t an option.
    Old mate insisted and said it was legitimate he had seen it happen in a Penant match.
    So my question is what is the correct ruling here?

    Yes Mick, it’s legit.
    The player whose ball is nearer the pin cannot elect to mark his ball, unless it’s preferred lies or it’s actually on the green. The player whose ball is further away may request that the interfering ball be marked and lifted. The first player may then do as requested or play his ball instead.

    Neither ball were on the green, and they did not interfere with stance, swing or play of a stroke. The ball in front was in line with the flag. I am very suspect that you would be allowed to lift and mark your ball off the green in these circumstance.

    NAGA

    #14247
    BumpunRunBumpunRun
    Participant

    What would your ruling have been if it wasn’t Senior Champs?

    I still would have said the same thing. My protests did not change the outcome on the day, and would like to know what your ruling here is Captain?

    Have a look at 15.3.b and tell me what you think.

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    #14248
    WeetbixWeetbix
    Participant

    What would your ruling have been if it wasn’t Senior Champs?

    I still would have said the same thing. My protests did not change the outcome on the day, and would like to know what your ruling here is Captain?

    Have a look at 15.3.b and tell me what you think.

    15.3 Ball or Ball-Marker Helping or Interfering with Play?

    Maybe find that rule and then scroll up a bit?

    #14261
    AvatarDavidM
    Participant

    15.3.B

    Ball Anywhere on Course Interfering with Play
    (1) Meaning of Interference by Another Player’s Ball. Interference under this Rule exists when another player’s ball at rest:

    Might interfere with the player’s area of intended stance or area of intended swing,
    Is on or close to the player’s line of play such that, given the intended stroke, there is a reasonable chance the player’s ball in motion could hit that ball, or
    Is close enough to distract the player in making the stroke.
    (2) When Relief Is Allowed from Interfering Ball. If a player reasonably believes that another player’s ball anywhere on the course might interfere with the player’s own play:

    The player may require the other player to mark the spot and lift the ball (see Rule 14.1), and the ball must not be cleaned (except when lifted from the putting green under Rule 13.1b) and must be replaced on its original spot (see Rule 14.2).

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    #14267
    WeetbixWeetbix
    Participant

    What would your ruling have been if it wasn’t Senior Champs?

    I still would have said the same thing. My protests did not change the outcome on the day, and would like to know what your ruling here is Captain?

    Have a look at 15.3.b and tell me what you think.

    15.3 Ball or Ball-Marker Helping or Interfering with Play?

    Maybe find that rule and then scroll up a bit?

    Or I could have totally f#€ked up!

    15-3 it is

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    #14268
    BumpunRunBumpunRun
    Participant

    Now I’m curious, did any of the rule advice that you offered affect the bloke playing in his Senior’s Champs?

    #14282
    CommishCommish
    Participant

    Now I’m curious, did any of the rule advice that you offered affect the bloke playing in his Senior’s Champs?

    Of course not. Didn’t have any affect on Micks result at all.

    #14289
    OldBogeyOldBogey
    Participant

    For those few who occasionally visit the ‘old’ forum, I noted he also posted it in there.
    Maybe he didn’t like our answers and wanted ‘expert opinion’. It was the same anyway, but with rule book precision.

    People say that nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
    West Gippsland Veterans Champion 2017 & 2018
    Olinda Golf Club B Grade Champion 2018
    Warragul Country Club C Grade Champion 2019
    West Gippsland Veterans B Grade Champion 2019
    Nothing for 2020

    #14330
    MadamMadam
    Keymaster

    For those few who occasionally visit the ‘old’ forum, I noted he also posted it in there.
    Maybe he didn’t like our answers and wanted ‘expert opinion’. It was the same anyway, but with rule book precision.

    what is this old forum you speak about? Do you have a link?

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    #14336
    OldBogeyOldBogey
    Participant

    For those few who occasionally visit the ‘old’ forum, I noted he also posted it in there.
    Maybe he didn’t like our answers and wanted ‘expert opinion’. It was the same anyway, but with rule book precision.

    what is this old forum you speak about? Do you have a link?

    Maybe you could let them know where we all are now.

    People say that nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.
    West Gippsland Veterans Champion 2017 & 2018
    Olinda Golf Club B Grade Champion 2018
    Warragul Country Club C Grade Champion 2019
    West Gippsland Veterans B Grade Champion 2019
    Nothing for 2020

    #14339
    BumpunRunBumpunRun
    Participant

    Should we mark our position on this forum here first?
    I’ll just run it by iRonMick before we do, just in case it’s not allowed.

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