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    Avatarxrman
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    Cleveland HB Launcher irons

    I tried a set of Cleveland HB Launcher irons with seniors flex shafts yesterday. Set 5 iron to GW. These are super game improvement irons. With the large hybrid like sole they are less likely to result in fat shots. Conditions were wet and soggy. Once I got used to playing variable length irons again, I found that they were easy to hit, not super high and carry about the same as my regular clubs. I think they would suit a beginner and senior players with slower swing speeds. These are the superceded model. The new Turbo version look to have slightly stronger lofts on a few clubs.

    Cleveland HB Turbo Driver

    I am using a 12 degree head that suits my 85-89 mph swing speed. No adjustments on the hosel / no moveable weights. It feels light to swing. it is available in 9, 10.5 ( + draw model) and 12. Retail $350-380. Pretty good performance / yard. I have added some lead tape to the heel to encourage a more draw bias. It is a loud driver!

    Milford Single Length irons SL-7

    I have been using SL irons for two years now. The advantages are a single consistent swing and ball position for all your irons. I started with Cobra F7, then moved to Cobra F9. ( 5 -GW) . The Cobras are strong lofted ( e.g. the 5 iron is 22.5 degrees= most 4 irons) and possibly for slower swing speed players the 5&6 irons would be better replaced with hybrids. The 5 &6 were prone to producing flyers with widely varying distances.

    The Milfords have some advantages. They are 50% the cost of the Cobras & have traditional lofts which I have found give more consistent carry distances. I am using graphite shafts. I would say that the Milfords are better suited to players with a shallow delivery, unlike the Cobras with their wider sole.

    I have the SL-7 from 6 iron ( 29 degree loft) to LW. I used the SL-7 SW and LW in summer and Cleveland CBX2 SW and LW in soft winter conditions ( higher bounce). If you are at all interested in the SL concept, these are a good starting point. You need to use them for a few games to properly evaluate the system.

    Cobra Single Length Hybrids

    One of the downsides of SL irons is that you need a good swing speed to get the 4&5 irons ( those under 26 degrees) to fly high enough and get good gapping distances between the irons. The alternative is to use Hybrids, but the longer shafts of traditional Hybrids can make them less accurate to hit. Cobra has been making SL hybrids for the last three models. These are hybrid heads on 7 iron length shafts. Generally they should be considered as 3,4& 5 iron replacements. They are not as long as traditional hybrids, nor as high flight wise. They fly just a bit higher than a iron, with similar accuracy. They are also good for punch shots, chipping close to the green and long bump and run shots. The baffler rails make them the club of choice in poor lies and the short shaft is good for side lies.

    #13043
    MadamMadam
    Keymaster

    Cleveland HB Launcher irons

    I tried a set of Cleveland HB Launcher irons with seniors flex shafts yesterday. Set 5 iron to GW. These are super game improvement irons. With the large hybrid like sole they are less likely to result in fat shots. Conditions were wet and soggy. Once I got used to playing variable length irons again, I found that they were easy to hit, not super high and carry about the same as my regular clubs. I think they would suit a beginner and senior players with slower swing speeds. These are the superceded model. The new Turbo version look to have slightly stronger lofts on a few clubs.

    Cleveland HB Turbo Driver

    I am using a 12 degree head that suits my 85-89 mph swing speed. No adjustments on the hosel / no moveable weights. It feels light to swing. it is available in 9, 10.5 ( + draw model) and 12. Retail $350-380. Pretty good performance / yard. I have added some lead tape to the heel to encourage a more draw bias. It is a loud driver!

    Milford Single Length irons SL-7

    I have been using SL irons for two years now. The advantages are a single consistent swing and ball position for all your irons. I started with Cobra F7, then moved to Cobra F9. ( 5 -GW) . The Cobras are strong lofted ( e.g. the 5 iron is 22.5 degrees= most 4 irons) and possibly for slower swing speed players the 5&6 irons would be better replaced with hybrids. The 5 &6 were prone to producing flyers with widely varying distances.

    The Milfords have some advantages. They are 50% the cost of the Cobras & have traditional lofts which I have found give more consistent carry distances. I am using graphite shafts. I would say that the Milfords are better suited to players with a shallow delivery, unlike the Cobras with their wider sole.

    I have the SL-7 from 6 iron ( 29 degree loft) to LW. I used the SL-7 SW and LW in summer and Cleveland CBX2 SW and LW in soft winter conditions ( higher bounce). If you are at all interested in the SL concept, these are a good starting point. You need to use them for a few games to properly evaluate the system.

    Cobra Single Length Hybrids

    One of the downsides of SL irons is that you need a good swing speed to get the 4&5 irons ( those under 26 degrees) to fly high enough and get good gapping distances between the irons. The alternative is to use Hybrids, but the longer shafts of traditional Hybrids can make them less accurate to hit. Cobra has been making SL hybrids for the last three models. These are hybrid heads on 7 iron length shafts. Generally they should be considered as 3,4& 5 iron replacements. They are not as long as traditional hybrids, nor as high flight wise. They fly just a bit higher than a iron, with similar accuracy. They are also good for punch shots, chipping close to the green and long bump and run shots. The baffler rails make them the club of choice in poor lies and the short shaft is good for side lies.

    thanks for the insightful post!

    #13071
    Avatarxrman
    Participant

    You are welcome.Madam.

    There is a lot of advertising hype about golf product. Sometimes it is helpful to have an opinion of a owner of the equipment to discuss pros/ cons. Opinions are like arse holes, we all have one.

    I should have prefaced my postings with the fact that I am a senior golfer / mid handicap. The problem I find with product evaluations I see is that it is usually a Pro level player giving his opinion. Occasionally they have a mid -handicapper guest presenters doing the evaluation. I can identify with those guys and their less than perfect swings. Still just hitting a club a few times isn’t a great evaluation. For me it takes a few games to get a feel for a club.

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    #13074
    BumpunRunBumpunRun
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    Anyone interested in a review on a 2002 model of Maxfli A10 Tour Limiteds?

    They’re good.
    They were one of the early progressive sets with the combo of cavity back in 3-5 irons, what would be described now as a muscle back in 6-7 and blades in 8-SW.
    They’re so good that even after this long I have zero desire to look to replace them.
    Living in iron covers since day one, there’s no bag chatter even with the Ni/Chrome outer layer.

    #13092
    WeetbixWeetbix
    Participant

    Anyone interested in a review on a 2002 model of Maxfli A10 Tour Limiteds?

    They’re good.
    They were one of the early progressive sets with the combo of cavity back in 3-5 irons, what would be described now as a muscle back in 6-7 and blades in 8-SW.
    They’re so good that even after this long I have zero desire to look to replace them.
    Living in iron covers since day one, there’s no bag chatter even with the Ni/Chrome outer layer.

    I’d be interested in a review

    #13094
    BumpunRunBumpunRun
    Participant

    I’d be interested in a review

    They’re good for a really cheap set of rubbish brand clubs.

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    #13099
    GPJGPJ
    Participant

    Anyone interested in a review on a 2002 model of Maxfli A10 Tour Limiteds?

    They’re good.
    They were one of the early progressive sets with the combo of cavity back in 3-5 irons, what would be described now as a muscle back in 6-7 and blades in 8-SW.
    They’re so good that even after this long I have zero desire to look to replace them.
    Living in iron covers since day one, there’s no bag chatter even with the Ni/Chrome outer layer.

    iron covers ……… I’ll say no more.

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    #13101
    BumpunRunBumpunRun
    Participant

    iron covers ……… I’ll say no more.

    That’s a good one Gazman, both clever and original all at the same time.

    #13104
    WeetbixWeetbix
    Participant

    I’d be interested in a review

    They’re good for a really cheap set of rubbish brand clubs.

    TBH that wasn’t worth waiting for

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    #13205
    Avatarxrman
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    Driver reviews of specific Brands over the last five years or so can be very informative. Performance seems to fluctuate up and back, not in a linear ( upward) manner that the marketing departments would have us believe. It is entertaining to look at You Tube reviews when the products are first released and then when subsequent models arrive, the early model is considered in a less flattering light. Some models seem to have a cult following , like the Taylor Made M2 .

    I was looking for an adjustable Driver for a project I had in mind , to make a fade biased tee shot. I came across a couple of Nike Vapor Fly Speed Drivers on Face Book Market Place, one with Regular flex and the other Seniors A flex shaft. Being relatively new to golf I didn’t know Nike made golf equipment, so I consulted old reviews from 5 years ago. It seemed that it was considered a suitable Driver for my skill level.

    My review
    1) It sounds good
    2) high flight trajectory ( good for my swing speed 85-89 mph)
    3) Adjustable for face angle ( closed/ neutral/ open) and Loft 8.5 to 12.5 degrees
    4) Shafts; regular shaft seems light but stable. A-flex is a bit too whippy( dispersion was erratic) .

    Outcome.

    45.5 inch regular shaft Set at 10.5 open face with 10 gm lead tape in the toe it is a fade biased ” weapon” for me
    Initially I was going to sell off the loser of the shoot out , but the A flex has found a place in my wife’s bag, cut down to 44.5 inches ( swing weight C5? ) set at 12.5 , closed face.

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    #13339
    Avatarxrman
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    Update on the Nike Drivers.

    I added more weight on the heel side of the A -flex ( total around 14 gm for swing weight feel correction) set at 10.5/neutral and it is out pacing the Regular Flex Driver. I took the weight out of the toe on the R flex and set it to 10.5 / neutral. It was fading too much before.
    Anyone need a Nike Vapor Speed 45.5 ” R flex shaft Driver???

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