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How was your IPIR?
I had to go back to your post to remember” In Position In Regulation”.
The answer was 6/18 GIR and 3/10 up and down. To me being close enough to be able to do a short chip and be close enough to sink a putt. So would that make my IPIR 9?
The tee shot in play (TSIP) is the area of my game that is my Achilles heel. My Drives are not that long ( 190-200m) carry distance and not much roll locally, so I don’t have that excuse for my inaccuracy. In my last two games I only had to chip back out to the the fairway once, which resulted in me scoring near my handicap level ( 16) with an 86 and 88 off the stick. That is an improvement. Perhaps a modification to your TSIP should be “effective” TSIP to cover the two shots that I bunted down the fairway 40-50 m when I mishit the ball ( keep your eye on the ball you idiot). I had swing thoughts/ other thoughts in my head after I crossed the play line in my PSR. I have to learn to back off and repeat the PSR when I don’t feel right!
Two steps forward
1) I hit a serviceable 44 in the Mumbannar Masters comp yesterday. Other than the bunt off the tee/mishit I hit every fairway and even got a 215 m drive thanks to the tail wind (30 kph) followed by a 192 m 4 W second shot. Who is this masked golfer?
2) Chipping is getting me on the green, perhaps still not at the pin enough yet.One Step back
1) I don’t like our so called sand bunkers on the local course. They should be called dirt traps. They have a centimetre or so of softer raked heavy sand on top of a solid dirt base. The variable depth leads to splash shots being unpredictable, especially when you are near the edge of the bunker. I am usually pretty good at using course management to avoid going into the bunker, but I mishit a 25 degree hybrid and the ball didn’t reach the back of the green as planned. I tried a LW shot out of the bunker , but managed to blade it over the green, making for another difficult downhill off camber chip with the LW. I had a 3 m downhill putt after the LW shot ( I didn’t hit it hard enough) and I missed= double bogey. Not a terrible outcome given the lie, but I hate hole #4 getting the upper hand!!!2 users liked this post.
I think a reasonable definition of Tee Shots in Play would include a requirement that the ball is far enough down the hole to allow for a realistic IPIR
Otherwise it’s not reasonably in play
Without the acronym analysis, that’s essential my criteria to determine if my driver needs work. If I can’t have a realistic, reasonable chance at hitting GIR then I needed to work on my driver.
I figure there is no sense being middle of the fairway but always 180+ out from the green! My goal is to be inside 150m for all approach shots, ideally around 100m.
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Well I think if length is an issue I wouldn’t penalise my TSIP stats because of that – even if I don’t have a club to reach the green – I imagine as the years go by that will become a reality for me too
Most courses we play will only have a few par 4s over 360m off the white tees – handicap will have to handle that – so even with a 190-200m tee game most par 4s are in play
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Well I think if length is an issue I wouldn’t penalise my TSIP stats because of that – even if I don’t have a club to reach the green – I imagine as the years go by that will become a reality for me too
Most courses we play will only have a few par 4s over 360m off the white tees – handicap will have to handle that – so even with a 190-200m tee game most par 4s are in play
Isn’t that why we’re being told nowadays to play the forward tees? Play the tee to match your game?
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Yes – but how often do you get a choice in a comp?
Plus if there are 2 holes beyond your reach I would still play those tees
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Yes – but how often do you get a choice in a comp?
Plus if there are 2 holes beyond your reach I would still play those tees
In response to Hacks suggestion, yes Weeti you should have a choice on which tee you play in competition.
the GA new world handicap system is set up to accommodate players playing from multiple tees in the same competition on same day.
Every tee be it, back, middle and front has a slope rating and your handicap adjusts accordingly, so no reason why cannot play tee which fits your ability.
Clubs are still a bit in dark ages in this matter and hence a bit reluctant to introduce this, or more correctly most members dont know they can play forward or dont want to for macho reasons.
Some progressive clubs have even introduced multiply course combinations ie front 9 off blue, back 9 off red. as a variant for member enjoyment.
XRMan having 3 tees to choose to play from gives you as a player lots of variation in the course and enjoyment in game.1 user liked this post.
Yes – but how often do you get a choice in a comp?
Plus if there are 2 holes beyond your reach I would still play those tees
As CB80 notes, the WHS has made provision for multi tee competition rounds but clubs here in Oz are slow to adopt.
I do think players are slow to adopt too.
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Yes – but how often do you get a choice in a comp?
Plus if there are 2 holes beyond your reach I would still play those tees
In response to Hacks suggestion, yes Weeti you should have a choice on which tee you play in competition.
the GA new world handicap system is set up to accommodate players playing from multiple tees in the same competition on same day.
Every tee be it, back, middle and front has a slope rating and your handicap adjusts accordingly, so no reason why cannot play tee which fits your ability.
Clubs are still a bit in dark ages in this matter and hence a bit reluctant to introduce this, or more correctly most members dont know they can play forward or dont want to for macho reasons.
Some progressive clubs have even introduced multiply course combinations ie front 9 off blue, back 9 off red. as a variant for member enjoyment.
XRMan having 3 tees to choose to play from gives you as a player lots of variation in the course and enjoyment in game.Exactly.
Must admit though that until my physical ability forces it, I’d rather play a tough track off the tips to challenge myself.
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Yes – but how often do you get a choice in a comp?
Plus if there are 2 holes beyond your reach I would still play those tees
In response to Hacks suggestion, yes Weeti you should have a choice on which tee you play in competition.
the GA new world handicap system is set up to accommodate players playing from multiple tees in the same competition on same day.
Every tee be it, back, middle and front has a slope rating and your handicap adjusts accordingly, so no reason why cannot play tee which fits your ability.
Clubs are still a bit in dark ages in this matter and hence a bit reluctant to introduce this, or more correctly most members dont know they can play forward or dont want to for macho reasons.
Some progressive clubs have even introduced multiply course combinations ie front 9 off blue, back 9 off red. as a variant for member enjoyment.
XRMan having 3 tees to choose to play from gives you as a player lots of variation in the course and enjoyment in game.My club has only two tees ; men’s and women’s.
With my 190-200m tee shots, a few par 4’s second shot are at my next club’s limit ( 160-175m) which is the 4Wood. I can get it on the green sometimes and if the green is soft it can stay on sometimes. If there is a bit of run I can get my 3 Hybrid that distance too, but it often comes in quite low and runs through.
It makes the up and down skill more important with regard to accuracy to the pin. Getting it on the green in three can be done either by bombing in the two longest shots you can and a little chip onto the green ( missed the green or came up short) , or laying up with shot two to a full wedge distance out ( 65m for me) . If there is danger short I choose the second option, given our unpredictable ” dirt” bunkers. Unpredictable because of variable depth of loose heavy sand or water effect compacting the so called loose layer.
Playing with a strong following wind or at a course with some run, I get the feel of what it must be like to play with some shot length. It has positives and negatives. At least I know where the ball will stop at my home course.
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Yes – but how often do you get a choice in a comp?
Plus if there are 2 holes beyond your reach I would still play those tees
In response to Hacks suggestion, yes Weeti you should have a choice on which tee you play in competition.
the GA new world handicap system is set up to accommodate players playing from multiple tees in the same competition on same day.
Every tee be it, back, middle and front has a slope rating and your handicap adjusts accordingly, so no reason why cannot play tee which fits your ability.
Clubs are still a bit in dark ages in this matter and hence a bit reluctant to introduce this, or more correctly most members dont know they can play forward or dont want to for macho reasons.
Some progressive clubs have even introduced multiply course combinations ie front 9 off blue, back 9 off red. as a variant for member enjoyment.
XRMan having 3 tees to choose to play from gives you as a player lots of variation in the course and enjoyment in game.My club has only two tees ; men’s and women’s.
With my 190-200m tee shots, a few par 4’s second shot are at my next club’s limit ( 160-175m) which is the 4Wood. I can get it on the green sometimes and if the green is soft it can stay on sometimes. If there is a bit of run I can get my 3 Hybrid that distance too, but it often comes in quite low and runs through.
It makes the up and down skill more important with regard to accuracy to the pin. Getting it on the green in three can be done either by bombing in the two longest shots you can and a little chip onto the green ( missed the green or came up short) , or laying up with shot two to a full wedge distance out ( 65m for me) . If there is danger short I choose the second option, given our unpredictable ” dirt” bunkers. Unpredictable because of variable depth of loose heavy sand or water effect compacting the so called loose layer.
Playing with a strong following wind or at a course with some run, I get the feel of what it must be like to play with some shot length. It has positives and negatives. At least I know where the ball will stop at my home course.
These ‘longer holes’ also low index?
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One one hand today’s game was not too bad. I had three blow out holes when my tee shots went slightly off course, well one went more than slightly into the adjacent fairway( OOB) , one rolled into the base of a tree and another rolled into the right rough and we couldn’t find it. I hit about 6 three putts, but mainly on situations on par 3 holes where I was practically on the green, or actually on the green, so the scores were not disastrous.
Two steps forward
1) Other than the three wayward shots my tee shots were pretty good and had some distance. ( for me)
2) I hit a lot more GIR than usualOne step back
1) The lag putts were long and I was a bit timid today, hence three putts on 6 occasions. At least my miss with number two putt was minimalScore 94/ 30 points
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Someone asked me recently about the index rating of the par 4’s that I have trouble reaching in 2 shots.
I can reach them in two shots occasionally when I get the tee shot long enough and in ideal positions and then hit the second shot crisply on target (not that often). Then, of course, there is the wind factor! SW Victoria is windy, only the direction changes.Hole #1 is a dogleg left shape 335m. ( rating index 6) Long hitters can cut the corner. I am not confident with that approach, so I aim it down the centre of the fairway hoping for a draw shape. If I get more than 180 m it ends up in the right light rough. I occasionally use my 4 wood off the tee when there is a bit of roll. The next shot of 150-160 m to the front of the green. The shape of the fairway funnels the ball left to right ( towards the sea) so it is better to land just short left and let it roll on. My usual score on #1 is bogey/ occasionally a par if I get the draw shot off the tee
Hole #2 is a 340 m dogleg right. ( rating 2 index) . Here you need to end up left side to get a clear shot at the green with shot two. A draw shot will often roll into the trees on the left, so I usually try for a fade. When it works it leaves me with a 160-150 m shot to the green. There is a green side bunker on the right, but left side is safe. I usually play my 3Hybrid (Cobra SL F9). A good shot will be pin high, hopefully leaving a short chip onto the green.
Hole #10 is a 337 m ( rated index 9) with a slight bend to the right. Ideally a tee shot to the left side is ideal. Wind is often a issue on this hole as it faces West. Our dominant wind is a westerly at 38 degrees South we are on the edge of the roaring 40’s.
It adds about 2 clubs to the shot distance. With a good draw shape tee shot and a 4W 170m I can get on this green occasionally.Hole #12 is rated at #1index ( 372 m) but I don’t find it all that hard. A good shot off the tee to the left side ( avoid the trees on the right/ full of sweet pittosporum jungle) I can reach the green in 2 shots with a good strike. 200 drive/172 4 W, but often it is a chip on for shot 3.
Hole #15 is a 359 m dog leg left ( index 5) . I can get on the green in 2 shots as long as a get a tight draw off the tee. Any fade and I am out of range for shot 2.
Hole #17 is a dog leg left ( index 7) 343m with a water hazard on the apex of the dog leg ( inside / left) . My tee shot can reach that water , so a tight draw aimed at the corner is risky. I usually try to get to the mid fairway section to get a clear shot at the green. Most time it is 160m m >. I can it the green sometimes, but it is usually laterally 10-20 m wide of the pin.
In summary, the par 4 dog leg holes are harder for me, especially when I send the ball wide of the ideal path. It makes the second shot that much longer, or on some holes it makes a controlled fade at the green an essential shot when the tee shot goes too far right ( dog leg right shape hole)
Tomorrow I am playing with my son-in-law again at 8 a.m. in the comp. It will be a hot day, so hopefully we will not wilt. Over 25 is a heat wave in Portland.
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